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Re: You really DON'T get it, do you??

Posted By: pete
Date: Wednesday, November 1, 2006, at 11:34 a.m.(pst)

In Response To: You really DON'T get it, do you?? (MaaMaw)


"That site pete is linking to is his own site where he stands to make money from you if you do buy that book through the link he provides." It is not my site.

I told no lies. My daughter, who lives quite some distance from me, owns the site. I did suggest she get hooked up on the bokk, but I make no money on it. And I truly have been looking for something besides the Dropship Directory to recommend - profit ot not. In fact, I'm an affiliate with Worldwide Brands, just got an email update from them today.

"Seeing how pete has a history of making posts just to make sales on this forum and other forums, I believe that it is safe to say that he cannot be trusted when he says that he "heard" that such and such a product is great and you should buy it, then he gives you a link to buy it where he stands to profit form it."

That package was recommended. Several places, by several people. And none of the scumbusters here have denounced it.

"Whether it is an affiliate link or it is his own site, he stands to make a profit which is the only reason he posted."

As I stated above, and state again here, it is not my site, I am not an affiliate and that is certainly not the only reason I posted. In fact, I have a history of making suggestions on forums all over the net, usually with no profit motive at all. I would never let money influence what I recommend.

"He has provided no proof that the product he mentions is in fact good for your needs, he just claims that he heard it is so."

How honest of me!

"Stephanie, I am not telling you what to do. Rather I am just telling you to be careful and don't buy stuff from posts made my pete or people like him as they are insincere and are merely posting to make sales regardless of whether or not they actually can help you, even though they make it seem that way."

What proof do you have of this? You claim to know me from other forums. How about a few links to these supposed underhanded recommendations? I think it's called "Put up or Shut up!" Shoe me - an the world - these links.

"What pete has here is a book he acquired resale rights to on a subject that he knows is fairly popular."

Wrong again. I do not have resale rights to that package. You really don't know near as much as you think you do.

"So he makes up a website to sell that product. Nothing wrong with any of that, of course. But what is wrong is that he makes posts on forums specifically and solely for the purpose to make sales without regard for the quality of the product or anything like that. It's all about sales and that's it. These are called drive by ads."

See above about putting up or shutting up.

"SO you may be asking, then why does pete get away with it, even on a forum like this? Well, because pete has positioned himself on the internet over the past few years as having been successful in the wholesale/retail arena using wholesalers and drop shippers. However, in recent years, he has really eroded his trust by posting blatant ads which he even tries to disguise by telling lies or not telling the whole truth in a lame attempt just to make a sale."

Let's see these blantant ads.

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