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Re: CarbonCopyPRO - outrageous claims. Scam, or it has a dram of reality?
Posted By: Dennis Bevers In Response To: CarbonCopyPRO - outrageous claims. Scam, or it has a dram of reality? (Les)
Date: Sunday, November 25, 2007, at 7:13 a.m.(pst)
>> I got this email today:
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>> Opt-In Info: If you feel you have received this message in error,
>> please contact MediaSoft at the contact information listed below
>> for immediate removal
>> ...SPAMMERS frequently use this technique for promoting their scams, schemes, and get-rich-programs.
Of course you didn't receive it in error. They got your name from some "entreprenuerial" or home-based opportunity-seeker list they bought or generated. You were targeted due to seeking "wealth", which puts you in their prime target market.
>> 100 millionaires by 2012
Typical GRQ headline. The wanna-be's dream - Overnight millions, without having a large investment, and no particularly valuable skills or talent.
>> We've created the most powerful automated turn-key sales and
>> marketing system ever. It was tested by our employees and the
>> result is - four millionaires before the age of 30.>> We have further suggested our friends to try it and obtained
>> similar results.>> Now we are ready to shake the very foundation of the industry
>> with our mission: 100 millionaires by 2012.The dram of reality I gleaned is this:
It's been four years since they starter, yet as of Oct 2007, they are still 94 millions short of their goal!
Probably because they haven't duped enough suckers into paying in the initial
$49, followed by the incremental payments to ramp up to $2000 or more per wanna-be millionaire.Back-end sales with a small initial investment is good marketing, if the buyer is receiving solid value for their money. The same technique is used by phone mediums, fortune tellers, and others who drain money slowly from the victims with repeated small payments required, building up to larger and larger payments when possible.
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>> Clicking on the link you'll be accessing a very professional
>> multi-tiered long sales letter/info pages.Yep, multi-tiered, requiring you to give them more info and/or money with each layer.
Bleeding the victim dry in stages. The more they have built up in payments, often with money they can't afford to lose, the harder it is for them to drop out at the next increment. Somewhat like having a dream poker hand, where the ante and individual raises force some players to drop as the next raise gets to rich for their pocker. Unlike poker rules, there is no set limit on the next raise. And, of course they have dealt you a winning hand, with their "automated, can't fail due to human weakness removed program".
>> The url here is "http://oneyearplanonline.com", they ask you
>> for your name and email to go further- you can give bogus name and email
>> to get to the second page.They could care less about a bogus name and email, as long as they receive payment. They love electronic payments as their is a connection to you, no matter what name and email addy you use. You are going to use an email address you actually read or you wouldn't send them money.
Why the need to suggest the phony name/info?
>> The url there is:
>> "http://oneyearplan.net/destinationfreedom", with audio, which
>> basically does not disclose you much, but looks very much hyped up, has a
>> truckload of testimonials.Typical, lead them on, with no hard data or name of company or products. You still don't know what you are expect to sell!
>> It's about "CarbonCopyPRO", some marketing system they say
>> it's the best in the world, bla-bla-bla, they are committed to make 100
>> millionaires by 1012, real potential is $250,000 in the first year,
>> bla-bla-bal, etc.>> Just look at how the second page begins:
>> "By Virtually ELIMINATING Human Error, We Have Created The Most
>> Powerful Marketing System on the Planet: CarbonCopyPRO.
>> I'm committed that every one of my members is earning at least $15,000
>> a month within their first 90-days"Again, promising the hopeless, wanna-be, they can still be a millionaire, and even have unbelievable thousands in mere weeks - So tempting to make that next payment, since they'll have the money back before their spouse even knows it's gone, or before their next rent/mortgage payment is late mentality.
This is from their starting page:
"YOU DECIDE: Continue to struggle and eventually fail by losing money hand over fist...
Or plug into the first EVER fully automated, turn-key, sales and marketing system on the planet."
Once again appealing to clueless people who believe they can buy wealth, with no talent, business sense, or unique business proposition.
If it's truly fully-automated, they could create an unlimited number of sites doing it themselves and become billionaires instead of selling the secret to others, deleting their own potential. Sounds like just the opposite of what Trump would do!
>> Jay Cubassek seems to be the main figure here, also Mike Dillard is
>> involved.If wc are encouraged to use phone ID's how do we know there really is a Jay or Mike behind this. People who can create millionaires are usually known at least in some field.
Remember, they started at least 6 years ago. And yet they remain mostly anonymous.
>> To jump in, first you need to complete an application form, which
>> costs $49, but after that a lot more expenses seems that will follow,
>> because I've seen somewhere in the second or the third page they say you
>> don't need much to start with, $2,000 is enough.Drip, drip, drip, getting the money by increasingly larger drips.
>> OK folks, what do you think about this?
Scheme to enrich "Jay", "Mike" and whoever promotes this successfully, by whatever means, including spam, drive-by posts, etc, targeting people who didn't seek them out.
>> What about Cubassek and Dillard? What would you advise me? Can we do a
>> little collective research on this CarbonCopyPro?
>> Some of you got involved already?Probably not among this forum's regulars. Too many "Red Flags" to appeal to the educated entrepreneur. Targeted towards newbies and the naive.
>> Personally I'm very skeptical about this...
Put me under the ultra skeptical column.
>> Waiting for replies, thanks,
>> Les>> I edited the link, lest anyone believe you only posted your question
>> in order to recruit others. The same landing page is reached by the basic
>> URL, with no cloaked or re-direct link.>> Moderator
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