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Are you really sure you should trust them??

Posted By: Mel. White
Date: Monday, May 12, 2008, at 10:39 p.m.(pst)

In Response To: Re: Benjamin Addict? PayPal froze my account (Tim McG.)

>> But I don't see how there is anything to lose when we contol the
>> subscriptions from our PayPal (not anymore) and now, AlertPay back
>> offices.

What there is to lose is that you're posting your name and email (and pay accounts) all over the Internet as someone promoting what's known as a Ponzi scheme. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponzi_scheme

As it says, there's no real product... the money comes from chains of people who are paying $100 Every Single Day.

>> can't do anything other than close paypal accounts. We knew paypal could
>> be a problem from the launch so we had a backup plan in place.

In other words, they knew the scheme is a violation of Federal laws.

>> Our
>> voicemail is full because we got over 1000 calls today. We will get back
>> to everyone over the next 24 hours. We are switching over to alert pay and
>> installing our back office over the next 24 hours. Send us your alert pay
>> info and will put the button on your site tonight. Then instruct your
>> downline to restart the subscriptions on your site.

The problem is, the Alert Pay site says this: "Compliance with Laws. You will conduct your business affairs in an ethical manner and in accordance with the terms and intent of this Agreement, and in compliance with all applicable laws and regulations;

Fraud. You shall not use the Services in connection with any illegal or fraudulent business activities under any laws or regulations of any applicable jurisdiction; "

This is the same section that PayPal used in closing the accounts. One gripe to Alert Pay AND/OR to the RCMP (http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/scams/index_e.htm) and they'll be scrambling for another pay source.

>> We know what we're doing. Paypal has the most accounts so its the
>> easiest way to build momentum. You will be able to add just about any
>> payment processor you want soon.

That's what they say, but that's not what the laws say.

>> Keep in mind that you never have to pay
>> the daily fee

That's not what it says on the contract agreement you signed with them. 7 days free and then $100/day. Are they going to suddenly "forgive" everyone who stays joined but doesn't pay $100/day? Let them off the hook?

If so, I smell a sudden "rules change" happening. That's not what their contract says. If they don't hold people to that contract, where's YOUR $100/person/day going to come from?

>> and we are still going to give you all of our signups. The
>> new software will lock in your downline so in the even of a problem with
>> any payment processor the will be to resume the subscription directly to
>> you from any payment method you accept right from the back office and you
>> will be able to email them one at time or all at once from your back
>> office.

Typically, this is where the scheme starts with all sorts of changes to the plan and adding levels and so on and so forth. It'll fall apart within 5 months, with the originators getting off scott free (unless someone reports them by their real name and turns them over to the IRS and FBI) and everyone else taken to the cleaners to the tune of (if prices stay the same) hundreds or even thousands of dollars.

My advice to you would be to quit the program before you get caught in it. They know full well what they're doing is illegal and what they're having people do is illegal.

These are sharks and you're a very tasty seal. These aren't financially safe waters. Put your money in a bank and wait 3 months. You'll be glad that you did.

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