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Re: Crazy Fox is for REAL!!! Again with the skeptics-sigh

Posted By: JimG
Date: Saturday, May 24, 2008, at 9:56 a.m.(pst)

In Response To: Re: Crazy Fox is for REAL!!! Again with the skeptics-sigh (John)

>> let me note for everyone what an idiot this guy is. he made a point
>> that everything is an MLM such as buying a car from a car dealership or
>> buying a steak from a store.

Oh, wow, what a business opportunity.
Next, your gas station will go MLM and instead of selling you gasoline, will sell you the opportunity to sell other folks a chance to fill up and build a crude down-line. Of course, prices will really hit the stratosphere, then, because there will be so many people sharing in the profits. But what the heck, what are a few more profiteers at the pumps? Of course some folks will sign up just for the discounts on gasoline and road maps.

What? They haven’t carried road maps in decades?

Hmmm, looks like a great backend product if you can find a good supplier.

Won’t be long now…soon we all get a piece of the action of whatever we spend money for.

Ya think traffic tickets might be included, if we can talk up the entrepreneurial spirit at police headquarters?

Happy Memorial Day...and have a great summer.

What makes MLM's what they are is that they
>> have so many layers that people on top get paid or bonused for what
>> everyone else does below them. each company's structure is different. But,
>> buying a car or buying steaks is 100% COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. These are
>> traditional methods where there is only 1 or maybe 2 groups in the chain.
>> most auto dealers, except toyota, have dealers that are set up directly
>> with the manfuacturer. with his example of steaks there is usually a large
>> distributor that buys direct in volume from the manufacturer or supplier
>> then they sell to authorized dealers such as grocery stores. Even larger
>> companies, such as Wal-Mart dont use some of those distributors for many
>> of the products they sell. Sometimes they do and sometimes they dont. they
>> have their own distribution structure.

>> THERE ARE NO MULTIPLE LEVELS OF COMMISSIONS being paid out. MLM's work
>> by making money "down stream" on what other people buy from
>> people below you. That way you get small % commissions or bonuses for what
>> those people do for you. FOR THOSE HIGH INCOME MLM people this guy talks
>> about what he wont tell you is that those people make most of their income
>> from people below them. now that is actually really good but it really
>> turns you into a sign up person instead of selling. that is the part most
>> people dont want to do. you put all your hope in signing people up then
>> have to wait, and wait, and wait hoping the 90% drop out ratio on average
>> doesn't hit your downstream pipeline you have created. you then have to
>> hope those people you signed up are successful signing more people up.
>> What MLM's effectively do is cause you to have to rely on others to
>> determine your future. most people dont want to have to rely on people.
>> What MLM's dont tell you is the product you have to buy and stock. every
>> MLM is different. some require you to buy and stock, some broker sales but
>> at some level you are out of pocket at some point. For most people in a
>> tight economy or on tight budgets MLM's dont work and in the end the 90%
>> drop out because they get fed up with being out of pocket and not making
>> money.

>> Hey look, if you want to get into MLM's go for it. Alot of people make
>> money BUT the studies CLEARLY show that the drop out rate is over 90% in
>> almost every MLM based business. What alot of MLM's NEVER tell you is that
>> with an established company that has been around for decades is that you
>> are competing with hundreds of others just like you in your same area. For
>> the large brand name MLM's people get sick of people at work, friends,
>> family trying to sell them product. For the most part you can get the
>> exact same items at a local store, get it the same day, and usually at a
>> better price.

>> MLM's have their place but for most people it is not a fit. But, this
>> guy making some uneducated comment that ALL businesses are MLM's in the
>> end is completely stupid. MLM's were created for companies on tight
>> advertising budgets to get YOU the everday person to do advertising for
>> them. The overhead savings for those companies is staggering but they dont
>> tell you this.

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