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So they changed the program, then?

Posted By: Patricia Griffin
Date: Monday, July 28, 2008, at 6:50 a.m.(pst)

In Response To: Re: Benjamin Addict? (Matty)

>> If you may have read that a lot of these people think that you are
>> agreeing to pay $100/day. That is NOT true. You are agreeing to pay
>> $100/week and in return you receive 10,000 leads. So yes, there is a
>> product.

The site really DID say "$100/day". A number of us checked it out after it was reported -- and some of the ones who were in it early (check the messages) reported that yes they were expected to pay that.

And $100 for 10,000 leads is just a really bad deal. I realize that's a penny per lead, but do you know anything about the lead -- how much they make, how much education they have, what organizations they belong to, other info that helps you close the sale? I can grab you a list of 10,000 emails from just about anywhere. Emails alone are worthless.

And is that 10,000 leads per week or just 10,000 leads and you pay $5,200 per year for that 10,000 leads?

>> I personally am still involved. I cam in as the Ultimate Package
>> holder and received a free upgrade to the third level. I received 10
>> people and some 25mil in leads.

And you didn't do the math on this one? I'm no math genius, but I can figure out that if you got emails then someone's expecting you to make your money by spamming complete unknowns (and if you get a trap email, like Roadie's or other spam hunters you'll get shut down fast). And that a lot of those are going to be completely worthless (the number of people who can blow $5,200/year might be on the order of 50 million people... but 25 million people is about 1/10th of the population of the US. Is everyone getting that same 25 million addresses (in other words, Benjamin is reselling a spam list) or is everyone getting a new list (and did you really check all 25 million to see if they're good addresses or you got any info, or are you just paying for a spammer's grab list?)

>> I suggest you give it a try. But that's just an opinion. I will tell
>> you though, that I have never paid $100/day. That statement comes from
>> people who didn't read correctly.

No, we didn't. The original really DID say that you pay $100/day.

>> Yes, there's a statement of $100/day.
>> That statement is made because you receive $100/per member under you that
>> is upgraded. That is per week, but it is every 7 days from the day they
>> signed up. So like me, having about 25 people. I receive a payment
>> everyday, and some days more than one payment.

They changed the rules by the time you came in.

I'm expecting they'll change it again because people will shriek and yell scam... and then change it again... and again.

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