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Re: Scamorama
Posted By: madmax In Response To: Re: Scamorama (Michael J McMillan)
Date: Sunday, February 8, 2009, at 5:51 a.m.(pst)
I offered to pick the boat up. To fly in and tow the boat home. I asked if I could see the boat in person. I asked where is the physical location of the boat. I asked for more pics of the boat. I asked how would the boat be transported to my address. I asked if I could pay cash in person. Boatsdepot.org didn't answer or respond to my email. Instead, they sent me payment instructions at least 4 emails. Check this out, I asked how much is the shipping cost (estimated). They said the shipping is included in the price of the boat. They even said the insurance and payment protection is included in the price,too good to be true. Finally, I called the local MoneyGram store and asked if I could send cash using my credit card (before I found this site)they said no. Perhaps, that's the only thing that saved me from being a victim. MoneyGram saved me $2100. I have been in contact(emails)with boatsdepot.com for 2 weeks now. Silly me, I thought, even if the boats were stollen, they were not stollen in the U.S. and perhaps the VIN's where not on record in the United States. THE MAIN REASON I WAS WILLING TO TAKE A CHANCE AND GO AGAINST ALL THE RED FLAGS & BUCKET OF COMMON SENSE WAS, their web site is dot org (.org) not .com or .net. I thought only Government, Non Profit, or organization that is listed with the BBB and insured. NOT!!!
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>> would have to hope that anyone here in the States would know better than
>> to try to purchase a boat from that far away, since the shipping costs---
>> especially for the bigger vessels-- would be astronomical. That's the area
>> of the world most likely to produce scams of the nature you describe too,
>> organised crime found quite a haven over there and they're making the most
>> of it.>> I'm a bit old-fashioned about this kind of thing and especially where
>> big-ticket items like boats and expensive cars are concerned. The Internet
>> makes a great "wish-book", but for the actual purchase I have to
>> see it and touch it. An older, used boat could be a real honey--- or could
>> break you with repairs just to make her seaworthy enough to get her home
>> from the purchase place. Only a personal inspection, with a good marine
>> inspector if possible, will tell for sure. Note that I wouldn't just take
>> the inspector's word for it, I still have to see it up close for myself.
>> That means that local boatyards get the first nod when it comes time to
>> buy a boat.
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