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Re: Projectpayday is a scam!!!!!!
Posted By: Amber In Response To: Re: Projectpayday is a scam!!!!!! (Sandi Moses)
Date: Monday, June 29, 2009, at 5:44 p.m.(pst)
In Response To: Re: Projectpayday is a scam!!!!!! (Sandi Moses)
>> I still can't believe this is legal. Amber, YOU are scamming the
>> companies because you are signing up for business offers you have no
>> intention of keeping. In other words, you are telling lies every time you
>> fill out a form indicating that you want what the business has to offer.
>> All you really want is the incentive. Your full stated intention is to
>> take the money and run. While it may be true that you are not being
>> scammed, you are doing a fine job of scamming honest businesses every time
>> you work this program. As far as ethics goes, Project Payday is Positively
>> Putrid. You and everybody else would scream scam and rip-off if someone
>> did this to you, but you are quite happy - even bragging about it - when
>> you do it to others.
>> Think about it.
Actually, no; you're wrong. I have kept a lot of the items I've signed up for. I love books, so when I signed up for them, I chose books I actually wanted. I am now in a book club for myself and one for my kids, who love Dr. Seuss. I was also able to replace some Disney movies that were scratched and would no longer play - those are not returnable and I will have to honor my agreement by purchasing 4 more in the next 2 years - that will be easily done in my house. My sister-in-law also happens to be a Disney NUT, so I am not only buying things that I want, but many are being used as gifts. I have made several one-time purchases that are not trial offers - I sent flowers to my mom on her birthday for $19.99 plus shipping - not refundable. I bought jewelry for both my sisters whose birthdays are both coming up July and August - refundable, but obviosuly I won't be returning them. I purchased antivirus software that got great reviews at CNET - not refundable. I am getting products I want, saving money on them, saving money on gifts, getting really good deals, and getting PAID. And I have more than broken even on my purchases, especially when you count my savings since I would have needed to buy gifts anyway. These are the very same offers that any other person, whether on Project Payday or not, would be eligible for. This is why I mentioned that, yes, you do have to spend some money at first to make the money later. Companies have made money off of me, and their 3rd party advertisers are paying me. If I truly end up not wanting to keep something, I'm within my rights to return it, per THEIR OWN terms and conditions. And if I return something I choose to pay my own shipping w/delivery confirmation, just to cover myself. There is nothing duplicitous about that, and once I've completed 10 sites, I never have to sign up for anything again, ever... I would just continue to make money. At any rate, it sounds like you've never tried this out for yourself because it's absolutely beneath you. That's your choice, of course, but it's really not fair to bash a system that the companies, advertisers, and referrals all appreciate because it's one of the few (if not the only) legitimate ways to earn income online and it's not spending an arm and a leg on get-rich-quick scams. I speak from personal experience: it works, it's win-win for all involved, and it's legal. People will read both of our posts and decide for themselves. In my view the people really getting screwed are the ones who are afraid to try it because of knee-jerk reactions to any kind of "system" online, though I can definitely understand the cynicism nowadays. This one just happens to be an exception. If the product sucks, I do not keep it. I expect fair quality for the money I spend, the same way I expect it from any store. I have scammed no one, and none of the companies have scammed me, thanks.
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