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Re: I decided not to go on. What about Steven Wagenheim?

Posted By: Steven Wagenheim
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, at 4:18 p.m.(pst)

In Response To: Re: I decided not to go on. What about Steven Wagenheim? (Bill, the Roadie)

>> >> That's your problem? That it's 2 years later?

>> It's obvious that you aren't interested in joining in a discussion,
>> because that ship has LONG since sailed.

>> So it's clear that you just now got around to doing a Google-preening,
>> looking for any mention of your name in any kind of negative light, and
>> trying to present counterposts to try to balance the search record. Not
>> necessarily a bad thing in itself, but so totally transparent as to the
>> motive. So you're being called on it, that's all.

>> In most cases of a stale discussion like this one, counterposts aren't
>> intended for the current users of a forum, but for future prospects of the
>> preener who might be doing their due-diligence in the far future. Srt of
>> revisionist history as practiced using Google as a tool.

>> The Scientologists have entire TEAMS of folks doing this frantically
>> to polish up their record, and push negative URLs off the top few pages of
>> results.

Thanks for the insight Bill. I wasn't trying to be "not transparent". I replied to this thread to set the record straight...nothing more, nothing less. When people make comments that I'm "into the occult" it makes me sound like a devil worshiper, which I am not. So I felt I needed to clarify exactly what I was into.

I have actually known about this thread since day one but up until now didn't feel the need to have to "defend" myself, but after a while I began to realize that by saying nothing, I am admitting to the accusation. Therefore, 2 years later, I decided it was time to give the facts.

Now, if reading Tarot Cards and doing Astrology and Numerology charts still makes me a devil worshiper in the eyes of some, so be it. But at least I did what I could to clear the air.

Again, not trying to not be transparent. And as far as not being interested in a discussion, I'm happy to discuss anything. I've been marketing online for almost 7 years. Ask Leo Silvestri, who has also contributed to this thread. He knows me personally and while he doesn't agree with some of my marketing strategies (many of which have actually changed in 2 years) he can vouch for my character.

Anyway, not trying to stir up a hornet's nest or anything like that.

Enjoy your day. :)

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