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Re: Alternative Open Challenge - Link deleted by Moderator

Posted By: Nicholas St Jon
Date: Tuesday, December 1, 2009, at 11:14 a.m.(pst)

In Response To: Re: Alternative Open Challenge (calvin)

>> My findings are you don't understand much about this, or you are a
>> scammer. Pick your poison. First.....liquidity....ANYONE that uses a
>> standard prepayment approach can get a HELOC and use it for emergencies,
>> that isn't unique to MMA. If they can't get one...well, they can't use the
>> MMA approach either. They could use credit cards....just like everyone
>> else, at sky high interest rates if they don't pay down their debt to
>> zero. End of story.

Its amazing the emotions this system evokes. I'll take it that you didn't really mean to call me a scammer, beings the FTC, FBI, and the SEC has not come and closed down a very legitimate company such as United First Financial, even after 4 1/2 years of supposedly ripping people off.

I NEVER said only people with the MMA can get and use a HELOC, that would be your assumption. It does just happen that many people never learned about having a HELOC and we teach them the advantages and HOW to utilize it best.

They can utilize the MMA technology with or without a HELOC or even a credit card, just so you're up to date about what we can and can not do.

>> Second....MMA IS additional payments, just funneling the payments
>> through a middleman loan. It's just PAYING to make extra payments. That's
>> why these systems lose. $3500 for the UFF system is an absolute anchor in
>> the comparison. ~$15-$20 in addtional interest alone, not counting the
>> actual $3500.

I NEVER said the MMA doesn't use additional payments, its just isolating payments and applying them at a strategic time.

What I do understand better than the DIYers is that life gets in the way and human nature typically lacks the discipline to stay on a program for its duration.

AND, as the DIY crowd so often states, simply add whatever you have left over at the end of the month and apply THAT to your mortgage, I've NEVER found anyone who does that, period. ALSO, no one getting an extra paycheck on the bi-weekly plan says "Oh, look honey, we got an extra paycheck, let's put it all towards our mortgage."

Your scenario is still in the realm of pure * THEORETICAL * and has NO proof to back up its results. On the other hand, tens of thousands of people have paid the $3,500, been extremely satisfied with the results, have had a great ROI, and reaped the benefits of utilizing the MMA system.

>> Third....survey 100 people to see if they missed additional
>> payments....anyone on "the system" can miss a payment just like
>> someone doing it on their own.

>> So the obvious conclusion to our findings is....you don't know what
>> you are talking about.

And another thing, yes anyone can miss a payment on ANY system including the MMA. But unlike the DIY crowd, our system will continue to help get them back on track and adapt to their situation day by day, week after week, and month in and month out.

Have you not known anyone to buy a gym membership and quit within a few weeks? They plan on you NOT coming to the gym and over sell the membership many times over. That's what United First Financial has learned about human behavior that the DIY guys can't seem to grasp. That's MY conclusion!

And I've concluded you haven't read the forum rules before posting, i.e., you don't get to promote a company, product, or bizopp in your post and then link to it. When your post is unrelated to your business, your link will be allowed.

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